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Ecclesiastical Materialism


Introduction. From the title, one might expect that I would be writing about avarice among the clergy. I am not addressing that at all, however. Recently I received from an old friend, who is a Novus Ordo conservative, a note in which he invited me to come back “to Rome — and the true Church — outside of which there is no salvation.”

His invitation, although made with all good intentions, nevertheless prompted me to write this response. What he means is that I should give up my repudiation of Vatican II and its subsequent reforms, submit to the local bishop, and be somehow “regularized” within the structures of the Novus Ordo.

First response. My first response is the following. The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is one true Church of Christ, and only one, which is the Roman Catholic Church. The Novus Ordo teaches that the Church of Christ merely “subsists in” the Catholic Church. (Lumen Gentium)

The Roman Catholic Church teaches that outside of the Roman Catholic Church there is no salvation. The Novus Ordo teaches that outside the Roman Catholic Church there is salvation, namely that non-Catholic religions are means of salvation. (Decree on Ecumenism, Catechesi Tradendæ of John Paul II)

The Roman Catholic Church condemns religious liberty. The Novus Ordo teaches religious liberty. (Decree on Religious Liberty)

The Roman Catholic Church condemns the idea that the college of bishops has supreme jurisdiction over the whole Church. The Novus Ordo teaches this condemned doctrine, known as collegiality. (Lumen Gentium)

The Roman Catholic Church condemns adultery and fornication in all cases. The Novus Ordo teaches that these are morally acceptable in certain cases. (Amoris Lætitia)

The Roman Catholic Church condemns as a mortal sin of sacrilege the giving the Holy Eucharist to non- Catholics. The Novus Ordo approves of it. (1983 Code of Canon Law)

The Roman Catholic Church condemns the use of birth control devices as mortally sinful and intrinsically evil. The Novus Ordo permits birth control devices for prostitutes. (Ratzinger, “Benedict XVI,” in a published interview)

What I have responded above is only a smattering of the myriad dogmatic, moral, liturgical, and disciplinary contradictions between the Roman
Catholic Church and what we call the Novus Ordo. We could provide the endless list of heresies and blasphemies of Bergoglio. But these things are well known.

The four marks of the Church. I will add to this first response the four marks of the Church.

(1) The Roman Catholic Church is one in faith, that is, in order to be Catholic all must profess the same dogmatic and moral teachings which are taught by the Roman Catholic Church. The Novus Ordo has no unity of faith, and as we have seen, has no continuity with the Catholic past in any of the essential aspects of the Church’s unity.

(2) The Roman Catholic Church is catholic, that is, universal, since it preaches a single doctrine to the whole world. Since the Novus Ordo lacks unity in doctrine, and lacks continuity with the Church’s past in matters of doctrine, it cannot have the mark of catholicity. For catholicity presupposes unity.

(3) The Roman Catholic Church is holy. The Novus Ordo is unholy, because it condones evil disciplines, preaches condemned doctrines and heresies, leads people into error and sin, and promotes the evil New Mass, promotes abominable ecumenical acts with non-Catholic religions, and condones sacrilegious liturgical practices.

(4) The Roman Catholic Church is apostolic. The Novus Ordo has abandoned apostolic doctrine and discipline, and teaches and does what is contrary to this sacred apostolic deposit.

Come back to what?

My friend’s invitation makes it sound as if the Catholic religion is intact in the institutions he wants me to embrace. It is as if it is the year 1950, and that I have wandered off into schism because of my pride. If this were true, I would return immediately. But there is an elephant in the room.

The elephant is this: The Novus Ordo is innovation, is heresy, is alien to the religion revealed by God and taught by the Roman Catholic Church.

It is as much a break with the past as the heresy of Martin Luther was. What is different, however, between Martin Luther and the Novus Ordo? There is this significant difference: Martin Luther was excommunicated and subsequently founded his own church.

The Novus Ordites have never been excommunicated, and have never founded their own church. This difference is the key to understanding the present problems in the Catholic

Ecclesiastical materialism. Now I will explain ecclesiastical materialism. The Roman Catholic Church has a visible aspect and an invisible aspect. What is visible is the external profession of faith, the administration of the sacraments, and the visible government. What is invisible is the grace and assistance of the Holy Ghost which infuses the virtues of faith, hope, and charity, the authority to govern, and the indelible character on the soul in Baptism, Confirmation, and Holy Orders.

The Holy Ghost, furthermore, assists the Church by an invisible influence in its promulgation of doctrine, morals, liturgy, and discipline, in such a way that these things are free from error. It is this invisible assistance which guarantees the infallibility and indefectibility of the Church.

All of these qualities are invisible, but are nonetheless what make the Catholic Church the one, true Church of Jesus Christ, outside of which there is no salvation. These invisible qualities have made the Catholic Church for two thousand years the unchanging, permanent, always consistent and coherent institution of divine truth in a sinful, ignorant, and ever-fluctuating world.

Even the administration of the sacraments has an external and internal aspect. The external aspect is the visible rite itself. The internal aspect is the validity of the sacrament, whereby it confers the grace it signifies. It is therefore possible that the external rite be observed and administered, even though, through some internal and invisible defect, the sacrament is not valid.

In our discussion here, we are saying that what is left of the authority of the Church in the Novus Ordo is merely the material or visible aspect of authority, that is, persons designated to receive authority. What is lacking to them is the divine authority, and the divine assistance which necessarily accompanies it. Body and soul. Just as the soul is the life of the body, so it is authority which gives life, so to speak, to the person who is designated to be pope or bishop. It is to say that a mere election or appointment is not sufficient. The authority must come to him from Christ, the Invisible Head of the Church, in order that he be a true pope or a true bishop.

This authority is transferred only on condition that the designated person have the intention of promoting the objective and proper ends of the institution over which he is placed. It is for this reason that the president-elect of the United States does not obtain power in November
when he is merely elected, but in January when he is inaugurated, and only on condition of swearing to uphold the Constitution of the United States. He must swear that he intends to lead the country to its objective and proper ends. Were he to fail to so swear, he would fail to obtain the power, and would remain a president-elect, a president only materially, until such time as the Congress removed the election from him.

What has happened to the Church since 1958.

What we are facing in the Novus Ordo is this: Modernists, by remaining secretive for decades, managed to obtain by the normal and legal process of appointment and designation, a position in the Church to which authority is normally connected. So John XXIII was elected pope in 1958. By a defect, however, the authority, which is invisible and which is given byChrist the Head of the Church, was never transferred to John XXIII and his successors. What was this defect? It is that they intended to pervert the Church, and to lead it in a direction contrary to its nature and purpose given to it by God. In a word, they wanted to
transform the structures and institutions of the Roman Catholic Church into a huge vehicle of their
Modernism. This evil intention is what has blocked the flow of authority from Christ into them. Without this authority they remain non-popes, false popes.

The bishops who have embraced this perversion of Catholicism are also false bishops for the same reason.
That the authority of Christ and the assistance of the Holy Ghost are lacking can be seen from the
Hiroshima effect of Vatican II.

The Novus Ordo religion — essentially Modernism — has wrecked all of the institutions of the Catholic Church. What is left is only a lifeless shell of these institutions. There are the same physical buildings. There are the same institutions of government. There is still a functioning Vatican. There is still a diocesan bishop. There is still a chancery. There are pastors appointed. There are functioning parishes. There are rectors of seminaries, the few that are left.

What we are seeing here, however, is merely a carcass of the Church’s authority. It is something like a dead whale which has washed up on the shore. These institutions, both the buildings and the government, constitute, from a purely material and
visible point a view, a continuity with the past. Internally and invisibly, however, they are full of doctrinal, moral, liturgical, and disciplinary
corruption. The stench of death rises from them, that is, the stench of heresy and all of its effects.

Everything is infected with gangrene: the Mass, the rites of the sacraments, the catechism, doctrine, morals, attitudes. We see the effects of this infection, as well, in the emptying of the seminaries, convents and religious houses of all kinds, in the breathtaking decline of religious belief and practice, especially among the young, in the nauseating and disgusting conduct of the clergy, even to the point of sodomitic orgies in the Vatican, enhanced with both drugs and liquor, which recently took place, and was reported in the major newspapers, e.g., the London Times.

The Novus Ordo popes, consequently, are mere “cadavers” of real popes, inasmuch as they sit in the chair of Peter, wear the uniform of a pope, but have no power from Christ to teach, rule and sanctify in His name.

My second response. My second response, therefore, is that the Novus Ordo conservatives are ecclesiastical materialists. They can see only the continuity of lifeless institutions from pre- to post-Vatican II, and from that they conclude that salvation consists in adhering to these lifeless institutions. They see only the material side of the Church, its visible
side, and turn a blind eye to the absence of the invisibles of the Church, especially the assistance of the Holy Ghost in keeping the Church free from error and defection. The Novus Ordo religion is one big error and defection. The fact that error and defection can be found in it is an infallible sign that the invisible assistance of the Holy Ghost is not with the Modernist “popes” and “bishops.” They have no authority to rule, no matter if they are maintaining the buildings and governmental institutions of the Church.

An analogy. To illustrate my point, I will make an analogy to a hijacked airplane. Imagine a scene in which terrorists, who have come through the ranks of the airline as uniformed, licensed, and authorized pilots, one day show their true colors by announcing that the airplane will be flown into the side of a building. They slit the throats of anyone who tries to
stop them. From the outside, the plane is flying as normal. Inside there is chaos, terror, and horror. The Novus Ordo conservative could be compared to the passenger who would say: “For as long as we are still flying, and the pilots are authorized and uniformed pilots, and the airline logo is still on the plane, there is nothing to fear.”

The sedevacantists are those who have done something to stop the evil pilots, and who have had the common sense to declare that if the pilots intend the ruination of the aircraft and its passengers, they do not have the authority to pilot the plane. These sedevacantists are considered “extreme” and “misled” by the passengers who are consoled — indeed blinded — by the purely external signs of the normal functioning of the plane. These are the Novus Ordo conservatives. A carcass of authority.

The Novus Ordo conservative looks merely at the carcass of authority
and government, which is really the only thing left intact since Vatican II, and from it concludes to the identity of the pre- and post-Vatican II religion. He fails to understand that if the invisible qualities of the Church do not vivify the visible institutions of the Church, then these institutions are dead in the practical order.

The Catholic Church, as the Church founded by Christ and assisted by the Spirit of Truth, always retains these institutions of the papacy and episcopacy and her faithful are always attached to them. Therefore in this present hijacking of these institutions, the Church does not lose her power to teach, to rule, and to sanctify, for these pertain to her divine constitution. Just as the solution to the hijacked airline is to wrest the control of the aircraft from those who would pervert its function and destination, so the solution for the Church is to wrest control of these sacred institutions from the Modernists so that once again the government of the Church may
function normally.

In order to wrest control, however, it is first necessary to identify the hijacker and to proclaim what is common sense: that he who intends the destruction of the aircraft and its passengers does not have the authority to pilot the aircraft. Likewise the Modernist, though sitting in a papal or episcopal throne, does not have the authority to pilot the Church.

The worst thing anyone could do in such a case is to reassure Catholics that because we find these Modernists sitting in the papal throne or episcopal throne, then for that reason they must have the authority to rule the Church. It is as absurd as to say that because the hijacking pilots are seated in the cockpit, they have the authority to pilot the plane and we must obey them.

The Novus Ordo conservative, in remaining loyal to the Modernist “authorities,” stymies and paralyzes
a proper and efficacious reaction to the problem in the Church. He invites everyone to rally to the Modernists, and to spurn and condemn the sedevacantists as schismatics. If the four Novus Ordo cardinals who presented the Dubia to Francis had the courage to declare him a non-pope, for reason of heresy, the Catholic Church would be on the road to recovery. Instead, they were careful to tell Francis that they were not sedevacantists. Cardinal Burke, one of the Dubia cardinals, stated in an interview in December that if Francis were a public heretic, he would no longer be the pope.

Leave Rome? Who has left Rome? It is not to leave Rome, the one true Church, to be faithful to Catholic doctrine, liturgy and discipline. It is not to leave Rome to denounce as Modernism, the worst heresy to assail the Church according to Saint Pius X, the aberrations of Vatican II in doctrine, liturgy, and discipline. It is not to leave Rome to declare that those who deviate from the true faith cannot rule the Catholic Church.

It is to leave Rome, however, to embrace the new religion of Vatican II, and to associate with the authority of Christ those who have devastated, in a matter of fifty-nine years, counting from 1958, the magnificent Catholic Church, built up for centuries by true popes and bishops with the assistance of the Spirit of Truth. For Rome is the Church, and the Church is the Faith.

All of these discussions always revert to a single question: Do the reforms of Vatican II constitute a new religion, different from the Catholic religion? If
they do, then the position of the sedevacantists is correct. For it is impossible that the Church, assisted
by the Holy Ghost, could promulgate to the whole world a false religion. If, on the other hand, they do not constitute a new religion, if indeed there is continuity of true doctrine, liturgy and discipline, then the sedevacantist is wrong and the Novus Ordo conservative is right. So it is pointless to talk about anything else unless this single burning question is answered.

His Excellency Bishop Donald Sandborn Most Holy Trinity Seminary

God Bless BJS!!

Veiling, a disappearing reverence

This is a repost on the topic of wearing a veil in the presence of Christ at mass. Thank you Patrick D. For sharing please look for his blog The Catholic Thinker.

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Go to any Roman Catholic, Anglo Catholic or Orthodox Mass today and the chances are you will see very few women wearing any kind of head covering, let alone the mantilla or chapel veil. It would seem this ancient and reverent custom is now so counter-cultural and viewed by some as discriminatory, that it has fallen well and truly off the sacramental radar.

Over the centuries women have worn mantillas when going to Mass, when in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament and when meeting his Holiness, the Pope. Wearing a mantilla or chapel veil has been a common practice amongst faithful women across the churches, with this custom most commonly practiced in the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches. Traditonally married women or widows wore black veils, while white veils were worn by young girls or unmarried women.

The practice of women covering their heads when in the presence of God has been well documented since the time of the early Christians. For centuries women followed this custom as a sign of humility and reverence but often also to imitate the Blessed Virgin Mary, who is always portrayed with a veil and is the archetype of purity and humility. Historically, a woman’s long hair was considered to be a thing of beauty and so by covering her head, the woman was seen to be covering her own beauty, so that the true glory may be given to God instead.

Women were also viewed as being a life-giving vessel with Our Blessed Lady being the most precious vessel of all, the one in which Jesus Christ was carried. In the same way, the chalice holding the blood of Christ, the very essence of Life, is veiled until the Preparation of the Gifts, and the tabernacle veiled between Masses. Unfortunately with the decline in religious teaching of any kind, understanding of this symbolism is completely lost on most people.

Before Vatican 11 women in the Catholic church were required to veil when attending Mass as a symbol of their modesty and humility before God.    Latterly, the practice of veiling has declined as has wearing a hat or even a scarf. It would seem in the 21stcentury that head wear of any description has finally been thrown out as ‘old hat,’ and as it no longer forms part of canon law, is not really encouraged. Consequently as the practice of veiling has become redundant, most people have little understanding of it and therefore no interest.

Ask your average church-goer why women used to wear mantillas and you will generally be met with blank faces. It is also likely that people (more so perhaps in the Protestant churches) would not even know what a mantilla or chapel veil was, let alone what one looked like.   Of those that do, some may view it as a discriminatory practice left over from the ancient church as a symbol of woman’s subservience to male ‘headship’. The progressive, modernist agenda has so muddied and influenced Christian practices that I would guess liberal christian women today would regard this practice as ‘repressive’ and a throw-back to misogynistic practices.

In St Paul’s first letter to the Corinthians (11:1-16) he declares that we must cover our heads because it is Sacred Tradition commanded by our Lord himself and entrusted to Paul. Sadly with the pressure of modern society and its secular values, many people have dropped what was once a beautiful and reverent custom and as many churches too have yielded to modern thinking, there is no longer a requirement to wear any type of head covering.

Yet I would say to those who still think that the veil is an outdated custom, remember that: “Jesus Christ is the same, yesterday and today, yes, and forever” (Heb. 13:8) Showing reverence and humility in the presence of God is not a practice applicable only to a particular period in time. It is for eternity, because He is the Alpha and the Omega – infinite.

So why do I veil? Well certainly not to make any kind of fashion statement as veiling today is probably considered completely ‘uncool’. I veil because I am in the presence of Almighty God, my Creator, my source of Life and my soul’s delight.   I veil as an external manifestation of my belief that Christ is truly present in the Eucharist and I wish to show love, reverence and humility in his Holy presence. I veil because like the Angels I feel I should cover myself in the presence of the Holy One. I veil because I love Our Lord. I veil simply because I feel it matters

Novus Ordo “Messes”

Here are just a few other Novus Ordo Messes documented:

    The Protestant-Masonic-Pagan Novus Ordo Service


    Title & Description



    Date of Photo

    Afro Mess “Afro” Mess
    during which people dressed as African “gods” and “goddesses”, while a pagan priestess acted as an acolyte of the presbyter
    Novus Ordo Presbyter VIIIth Encounter of UNESCO Schools, Sao Luis do Maranhao, Brazil November 17, 2001
    Army Mess “Army” Mess
    in which the performer of the Mess wears a camouflage smock and “consecrates” kommunion kookies in a wicker basket atop an army jeep
    Presbyter Norman Oswald Milwaukee, Wisconsin June 6, 2004
    Balloon Mess “Balloon” Mess
    in which the celebrant and congregation dance to a rock band holding helium balloons
    Newchurch Cardinal Christoph Schönborn Wolfsthal, Austria November 19, 2008
    Barefoot Mess “Barefoot” Mess
    in which teenagers sit around the Novus Ordo “table” in T-shirts, shorts, and bare feet
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Novus Ordo Parish June 9, 2003
    Beach MessBeach Mess Presbyter “Beach” Mess
    in which Mess is performed on the sand of a beach with the congregation dressed (actually partially undressed) in beach and swimwear
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Novus Ordo Parishes,
    Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts
    October 11, 2003
    Bikers Mess 1Bikers Mess 2 “Bikers” Mess
    in which motorcyclists recline on their “hogs” dressed in T-shirts and jeans, bandana head coverings, boots, and black leather
    Archbishop Timothy Dolan Holy Hill,
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    August 30, 2003
    Black Culture Mess “Black Culture” Mess
    in which Africans dressed in native skirts dance around the Novus Ordo “table”
    Roger Cardinal Mahony Cathedral,
    Los Angeles, California
    May 10, 2003
    Buddha Mess “Buddha” Mess
    in which the Mess is performed on a small table before a much larger Buddha altar
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Nuns In the West Conference, Hacienda Heights, California May 23-26, 2003
    Bum's Mess “Bum’s” Mess
    in which Mess is performed on a picnic table, and some of the participants come in undergarments
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Plainfield, Illinois Summer 2002
    Camouflage Mess “Camouflage” Mess
    in which vestments of camouflage material, designed by a Lutheran minister, are used
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Iraq April 2003
    Camp Mess “Camp” Mess
    in which “Mess” is performed on an overturned canoe
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Poland 2004
    Campfire Mess “Campfire” Mess
    in which “Mess” is performed on a toolbox by a presbyter “vested” in hiking clothes in front of a campfire
    Novus Ordo Presbyter St. Andrew Boboli Academy,
    Cardboard Box Mess “Cardboard Box” Mess
    in which Mess is said on a cardboard box
    Jesuit Presbyter World Youth Day,
    Toronto, Canada
    Summer 2002
    Carnival Mess “Carnival” Mess
    in which Newchurchers dressed as carnival fools stand around the table holding hands
    Novus Ordo Cardinal Karl Lehmann St. Pius Church,
    Bad Neuenahr-Ahrweiler, Germany
    July 29, 2007
    Charismatic Mess “Charismatic” Mess
    in which members of the congregation bark like dogs, oink like pigs, and roll on the floor
    Novus Ordo Presbyter University of Steubenville,
    Steubenville, Ohio
    October 20, 1997
    Cheesehead Mess “Cheesehead” Mess
    in which the performer of the Mess wears a mitre of cheddar cheese
    Archbishop Timothy Dolan Milwaukee, Wisconsin September 26, 2002
    Chinese Tea Mess “Chinese Tea” Mess
    in which Chinese tea is offered at the Offertory, and ancestors are worshipped at a pagan-style side altar
    Novus Ordo Bishop Allen Vigneron Our Lady of the Rosary,
    Union City, California
    February 7, 2004
    Circus Mess “Circus” Mess I
    in which the Mess is performed by presbyter and deacon vested in circus colors and sporting red clown’s noses
    Novus Ordo Presbyter and Deacon St. Michael, Wuerzburg, Germany August 7, 2005
    Circus Mess “Circus” Mess II
    in which the Mess is performed by a presbyter in a clown chasuble and consecrating what looks like a layer cake and Kool-Aid in plastic cups
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Jerry Hogan Worcester, Massachusetts October 17, 2011
    Clown Mess “Clown” Mess
    in which the performer is “vested” as a clown and engages in “sacred laughter”
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Brian Joyce Christ the King Church, California September 1, 2002
    Coffee Mess “Coffee” Mess
    in which coffee is used for “communion”
    Novus Ordo Presbyter St. William’s Church,
    Louisville, Kentucky
    October 4, 2002
    Come As Your Are Mess “Come as You Are” Mess
    in which the recipients of the “cookie” come up dressed as clowns
    Novus Ordo Presbyter John Johnson St. James the Greater Church,
    Dogtown, St. Louis, Missouri
    March 17, 2004
    Cookie Mess “Cookie” Mess
    in which invalidating ingredients are used (said to characterize the majority of Messes performed in the United States)
    Bishop John Cummins Oakland, California June 17, 2002
    Cowboy Mess “Cowboy” Mess
    in which the presbyter and his ministers were all “vested” as cowboys and live poultry were placed about the altar
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Canada 2005
    Dance Mess “Dance” Mess
    in which participants dance around the Novus Ordo “table”
    Archbishop Anthony Pilla Kent State University Newman Center,
    Kent, Ohio
    June 16, 2003
    Dip It Yourself Mess “Dip It Yourself” Mess
    in which children dip their Novus Ordo cookie into — what? — milk, grape juice, wine?
    Novus Ordo Presbyter St. Martin de Corléans,
    Aosta, Italy
    Disco Mess “Disco” Mess
    in which a mob of presbyters “concelebrates” Mess in the “disco” style, with hands waving and bodies undulating before the Novus Ordo dinner table
    Novus Ordo Presbyters Plobsheim, France May 31, 2009
    Divine Mercy Mess “Divine Mercy” Mess
    in which participants act like charistmatics with hands swaying
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Various April 27, 2003
    Dorito Mess “Dorito” Mess
    in which a “Dorito” corn chip is used as matter
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Religious Education Congress,
    Cathedral, Los Angeles, California
    October 21, 2003
    Drum Mess “Drum” Mess
    in which the presbyter performs the Mess with clay pots, sesame stick, and snare drum on the “table”
    Presbyter Garry Boy Scout Meeting,
    Friedberg, Germany
    Easter Bunny Mess “Easter Bunny” Mess
    in which the presbyter concelebrates the Mess with an Easter bunny, who hands out chocolate eggs for “communion”
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Hartberg, Austria April 8, 2012
    Family Mess “Family” Mess
    in which the presbyter performs the Mess while the kids loll around the “sanctuary” bored out of their goards with their backs toward presbyter, and altar
    Presbyter Joseph Ziliak St. John the Baptist Parish,
    Newburgh, Indiana
    Fetish Mess “Fetish” Mess
    in which semi-naked natives wearing fetish feathers gather around the “sanctuary”
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Tom Gier Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity 2000
    Field Mess “Field” Mess
    in which the presbyter performs the Mess in a field while the kids loll around in the grass
    Polish Presbyter Poland May 24, 2004
    French Bread Mess “French Bread” Mess
    in which french bread is “elevated” while people squat around a circular coffee table
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Steve Kelly A Living Room in Los Angeles, California 1996
    Field Mess “Front Yard” Mess
    in which the presbyter takes his ease in the front yard while a female “homilist” does all the work
    Presbyter Raymond Thomas St. Mary/St. Francis Cabrini Church,
    Conneaut, Ohio
    Summer 2006
    Gay Mess “Gay” Mess
    in which presbyters gather around the bishop in the rainbow-colored flag, the Radical Gay Movement’s war banner
    Roger Cardinal Mahony St. Dominic’s Church,
    Eagle Rock, California
    February 4, 2001
    Guitar Mess “Guitar” Mess
    in which the presbyter himself “performs” Mess and the music on the profane guitar
    Novus Ordo Presbyter “Dan” University of Canberra, Australia,
    “Spiritual Meeting Place”
    Gym Mess “Gym” Mess
    in which “a joyful and creative liturgy designed by and for families with Gospel-centered messages geared toward children” is performed while children crowd around the Novus Ordo “table” Indian-style
    Novus Ordo Presbyter St. Joan of Arc Church, Minneapolis, Minnesota July 20, 2003
    Gymnastic Mess “Gymnastic” Mess
    in which gymnasts dressed in flimsy costumes perform during the performance of the Novus Ordo Mess
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Menzingen, Switzerland May 2, 2004
    Haystack Mess “Haystack” Mess
    in which the presbyter simulates Mess on a haystack
    Presbyter Jim Profit Guelph, Ontario, Canada June 1, 2008
    Hindu Mess “Hindu” Mess
    in which pagan Hindu girls dance around the altar chanting the Hindu om
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Thomas d’Sa and Newparish presbyter Toronto, Canada July 2, 2006
    Hoverboard Mess “Hoverboard” Mess
    in which the performer of the Mess “presides” from a hoverboard, which he rides up and down the center aisle
    Novus Ordo Presbyter San Pablo, Philippines December 24, 2015
    Ignatian Retreat Mess “Ignatian Retreat” Mess
    in which a semi-nude Novus Ordo Jesuit presbyter dances a Mess
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Robert Ver Eecke, S.J. Boston, Massachusetts September 9, 2003
    Indian Chief Mess “Indian Chief” Mess
    in which a Novus Ordo Jesuit presbyter dons an Indian chief’s headdress and performs the Mess
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Tekakwitha Conference, Tucson, Arizona 2005
    Indian Feather Mess “Indian Feather” Mess
    in which the Novus Ordo Archbishop of Denver sports Indian feathers and tom-toms
    Archbishop Charles Chaput Denver, Colorado August 4, 2003
    Juggler Mess “Juggler” Mess
    in which a clown-juggler juggles the “cookies” while the presbyter “performs” Mess in a circus
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Heller Circus Knie,
    July 21, 2002
    Juvenile Mess “Juvenile” Mess
    in which seventh-grade girls prance around the “altar” while the presbyter performs “Mess” behind an altar frontal reading, “Treat others the way you would like to be treated,” enclosed in a big pink heart
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Laurie O’Toole Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia June 27, 2003
    Kitchen Table Mess “Kitchen Table” Mess
    in which Mess is performed on kitchen table with biscuits
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Austria October 31, 2003
    Kool-aid Mess “Kool-aid” Mess
    in which a Newchurch cardinal “consecrates” grape, cherry, and orange Kool-aid
    Newchurch Cardinal Roger Mahony Archdiocesan Pastoral Council Meeting
    Los Angeles
    February 13, 2007
    Life Teen Mess

    “Life Teen” Mess
    in which “Life Teen” charismatics worship the Novus Ordo “cookie”

    Novus Ordo Presbyter Various September 2, 2003
    Life Teen Mess

    “Low Dinner Table” Mess
    in which the Novus Ordo “Dinner Table” Is So Low that the presbyter has to perform the Mess kneeling

    Novus Ordo Presbyter Attard, Malta August 2014
    Menorah Mess “Menorah” Mess
    in which a Jewish Menorah is placed on the Novus Ordo “table”
    Archbishop Alfred Hughes Chapel of Notre Dame,
    New Orleans, Louisiana
    October 5, 2003
    Mother Earth Mess “Mother Earth” Mess
    in which a Novus Ordo Franciscan Sister of the Perpetual Adoration makes an offering to Goddess Mother Earth
    Novus Ordo Priestess Various August 12, 2003
    Mummers Mess “Mummers Mess”
    in which lectors and gift bearers are dressed up like Voodoo practitioners
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Robert Feeney Our Lady of Mt. Carmel,
    South Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    December 31, 2003
    Nightclub Mess “Nightclub” Mess
    in which the performer dresses in a tuxedo and tells jokes
    Monsignor Reynolds Pompano Beach, Florida April 7, 2003
    Oecumenical Day Mess “Oecumenical” Mess
    in which a joint Protestant-Catholic oecumenical service is performed
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Gotthold Hasenhuttl Berlin June 1, 2003
    Pancake Mess “Pancake” Mess
    in which a vested priestess cuts the pancake “species,” assisted by a presbyter and a bishop, while a T-shirted acolyte uses an ice-cream scoop in the clay “chalice,” all this taking place on a table covered with a multicolored party tablecloth
    Novus Ordo Bishop Pedro Casaldaliga (in background) Goiania, Brazil,
    Jesuit Youth House
    Papal Buddha Mess Papal “Buddha” Mess
    in which Mess is celebrated with a Buddha atop the Novus Ordo “table”
    Pope John Paul II Assisi, Italy October 26, 1986
    Papal Clown Mess Papal “Clown” Mess
    in which clowns entertain in front of the pope on his throne
    Pope John Paul II St. Peter’s Square,
    Vatican City
    November 17, 2002
    Papal Hindu Mass Papal “Hindu” Mess
    in which what appear to be Hindu ceremonies are performed in front of the papal Mess
    Pope John Paul II New Delhi,
    November 7, 1999
    Papal Nudie Mess Papal “Nudie” Mess
    in which a bare-breasted lectoress reads the Epistle in front of the pope and his clergy
    Pope John Paul II Papua New Guinea 1984
    Papal Sugar Cookie Mess I Papal “Sugar Cookie” Mess I
    in which JPII “consecrates” matter looking like a giant sugar cookie
    Pope John Paul II St. Peter’s Basilica,
    Vatican City
    September 4, 2003
    Papal Sugar Cookie Mess II Papal “Sugar Cookie” Mess II
    in which Benedict-Ratzinger “consecrates” matter looking like a giant sugar cookie
    Pope Benedict XVI Redemptoris Mater Seminary, 
    April 21, 2005
    Papal Woodstock Mess IPapal Woodstock Mess II

    Papal Woodstock Mess III

    Papal “Woodstock” Mess
    at which youth, dressed in beachwear (if at all), lounge around on the grass looking bored
    Pope John Paul II XIIth World Youth Day 1997
    Patio Mess “Patio” Mess
    in which Mess is performed on a round patio table
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Paul Villeroy St. Augustine Parish, Signal Mountain, Tennessee July 11, 2004
    Peanut Butter Cookie Mess “Peanut Butter Cookie” Mess
    in which peanut-butter cookies are used for the matter
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Archdiocese in the Southern United States October 23, 2003
    Picnic Mess “Picnic” Mess
    in which the short-sleeved presbyter holds up a cookie and glass of Kool-Aid, with other plastic containers of Kool-Aid on the picnic table
    Novus Ordo Franciscan Presbyter Franciscan Profession, United States 2003
    Pink Panther Mess “Pink Panther” Mess
    in which a cutout of a pink panther, the school’s “spirit” mascot, was placed in front of the “table”
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Rhenne Mt. Carmel Academy,
    New Orleans, Louisiana
    Polka Mess “Polka” Mess
    in which sacred music is replaced by polkas, and the polka is danced around the Novus Ordo “table”
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Perkovich St. Peter’s Basilica,
    Vatican City
    Pontoon Mess “Pontoon” Mess
    in which Mess is performed on a pontoon raft lurching back and forth on a river at a summer camp
    Novus Ordo Pastor Joe Campbell Our Lady of Perpetual Help Church,
    LaFollette, Tennessee
    December 11, 2002
    Pool Mess “Pool” or “Paedophile” Mess
    in which Mess is performed on a TV table beside a swimming pool for semi-naked boys
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Tony Janton La Salle College High School,
    Wyndmoor, Pennsylvania
    July 15, 2014
    Potato Chip Mess “Potato Chip” Mess
    in which the matter is potato chips and grape juice, held not in sacred vessels, but in glass containers
    Novus Ordo Presbyter St. Rita’s Church,
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
    November 20, 2003
    Priestess Mess “Priestess” Mess
    in which a woman plays the role of a presbyter and performs the Mess
    Presbyter Cooper St. Matthias Church,
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin
    March 25, 2003
    Pub Mess “Pub” Mess
    in which a presbyter performs Mess in a pub, accompanied by guitars and saxophones
    Novus Ordo Presbyter
    Sean Horrigan
    Mucky Duck Pub,
    Houston, Texas
    December 26, 2003
    Puppet Mess “Puppet” Mess
    in which a presbyter “performs” Mess using ventriloquism through “Charlie,” a dummy
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Douglas Sweet St. Joseph Church,
    Shreveport, Louisiana
    Pub Mess “Rabbit” Mess
    in which a presbyter “con”-celebrates Mess with Reggie “the Rabbit,” a professional rugby team mascot
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Jersey St. Michael Church,
    Darceyville, Australia
    September 29, 2013
    Sail MessSail Mess “Sail” Mess
    in which a bishop is consecrated on Novus Ordo “tables” made up like ships’ sails
    Bishop Michael Guyard France November 13, 2003
    Sandwich Mess “Sandwich” Mess
    in which the presbyter “consecrates” a bologna sandwich
    Presbyter Burnier Jesuit Youth House (Casa da Juventude),
    Goiania, Brazil
    Sitting Bull Mess “Sitting Bull” Mess
    in which the presbyter sits while performing the Mess before what he supposedly believes is his God, “before Whom every knee should bow”
    Polish Novus Ordo Presbyter Karibo,
    Skull Mess “Skull” Mess
    in which a grotesque skull image was projected on a screen above the altar, and a man and woman, back to back and totally naked, were projected on the same screen
    Novus Ordo Presbyter St. Andrä, Graz, Austria March 25, 2005
    Soda Mess “Soda” Mess
    in which Mountain Dew is served in plastic champagne classes for the “fruit of the vine”
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Matamata,
    New Zealand
    January 28, 2002
    Sponge Bob “Sponge Bob” Mess
    in which a Sponge Bob cartoon figure decorates the Novus Ordo “sanctuary”
    Novus Ordo Presbyter St. Barnabas Church,
    Long Beach, California
    June 7, 2009
    Spook Mess “Spook” Mess
    in which kids dress as little devils, etc., gather around the Novus Ordo “table”
    Novus Ordo Presbyter St. Charles Borromeo Church,
    Woonsocket, Rhode Island
    October 24, 2003
    Spring Water Mess “Spring Water” Mess
    in which the Transitional Deacon of the Mess, vested in shorts and running shoes, offers a bottle of spring water with a straw in it
    Presbyter Brian Christianson and Transitional Deacon Jim Hoener Schipol Airport, Amsterdam August 24, 2005
    Squat Mess “Squat” Mess
    in which the presbyter performs Mess squatting down in front of a “stool-altar” in the woods
    Jesuit Presbyter Jacek Olczyk Poland September 21, 2005
    Picnic Mess “Star Wars” Mess
    in which the presbyter wields a light saber like Darth Vadar
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Christoph Nobs St. Stephen, Putzbrunn, Germany June 8, 2013
    Stock Exchange Mess “Stock Exchange” Mess
    in which a presbyter simulated a Novus Ordo service in front of the Manila Stock Exchange’s tote board
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Stock Exchange,
    Manila, Philippines
    January 2, 2008
    Tango Mess “Tango” Mess
    in which danceuses cavort to the beat of a steel drum band
    Novus Ordo Presbyter St. Monica Church,
    Rochester, New York
    June 2, 2003
    Tet Mess “Tet” Mess
    in which danceuses trip the light fantastic before the Novus Ordo table right out of a scene from an oriental restaurant
    Novus Ordo Bishop Allen Vigneron St. Anthony Church,
    Oakland, California
    January 2004
    Vestal Virgin Mess “Vestal Virgin” Mess
    in which Novus Ordo nuns dance like pagan Vestal Virgins during the dedication of a Novus Ordo square “table”
    Roger Cardinal Mahony Cathedral,
    Los Angeles, California
    September 6, 2002
    Voodoo Mess “Voodoo” Mess
    at which witch doctors of voodoo participate, and animist (pagan) practices are included
    Auspices of the Archbishop of Sao Paulo Our Lady of Achiropita Parish,
    Sao Paulo, Brazil
    May 31, 2003
    Washtub Mess “Washtub” Mess
    at which Newchurchers congregate around a washtub altar
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Grosskrotzenburg, Germany August 2001
    Wildflower Mess “Wildflower” Mess
    in which German rye is served on rocks amidst wildflowers
    Novus Ordo Presbyter Ignatian Hike, Jesuit Community University,
    Freiburg, Germany
    August 24, 2003
    Witch Mess “Witch” Mess
    at which white witches assemble in coven with approval of the Novus Ordo bishop
    Novus Ordo Priestesses Oakland, California March 31, 2003
    Womyn Mess “Womyn” Mess
    at which Novus Ordo “table” servettes, lectresses, gift-bearers, etc., were all adult womyn, vested in Novus Ordo albettes
    Novus Ordo Priestesses National Council of Catholic Women,
    Washington, D.C.
    October 31, 1999

    Vatican 2: A Weapon of Mass Destruction 

    1. If something is true, then like God it always was and always will be. It remains true no matter what. 

    2. A good tree cannot bear forth bad fruit, a bad tree cannot bear forth good fruit. 

    3. In the Old Testament sacrifices by the Jews were made to appease God, but nothing would atone for original sin (bc it carries infinite demerits against the infinitely good Creator), except an infinite and perpetual sacrifice, which only God the Son could offer, the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is exactly that, the crucifixion of Christ offered back to the Father in an unbloody manner instituted by Christ Himself